Interoperability Minutes 2006-10-18

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Attendees

Present

  • Alex Russell <alex@dojotoolkit.org>
  • Arno Puder <arno@puder.org>
  • Chris Matthews <cmatthews@elinkbiz.com>
  • Chris Schalk <chris.schalk@oracle.com>
  • Coach Wei <coach@nexaweb.com>
  • Craig McClanahan <craig.mcclanahan@sun.com>
  • David Boloker <boloker@us.ibm.com>
  • Erik van Dongen <evandongen@seagullsoftware.com>
  • Gideon Lee <glee@openspot.com>
  • Greg Murray <greg.murray@sun.com>
  • Jon Ferraiolo <jferrai@us.ibm.com>
  • Joonas Lehtinen <joonas.lehtinen@itmill.com>
  • Kevin Hakman <khakman@tibco.com>
  • Kin Blas <jblas@adobe.com>
  • Phil Berkland <berkland@us.ibm.com>
  • Rick Evans <Rick.Evans@Sun.COM>
  • Victor Leith <vsleith@us.ibm.com>

Absent

  • Adam Peller <apeller@us.ibm.com>
  • Alan Clark <aclark@novell.com>
  • Alejandro Escalante Medina <alejandroe@jackbe.com>
  • Andrei Dragomir <adragomi@adobe.com>
  • Anil Sharma <anil@vertexlogic.com>
  • Bert Halstead <rhh@curl.com>
  • Bjoern Mueller <Bjoern.Mueller@softwareag.com>
  • Bradley Sipes <Bradley.Sipes@ikivo.com>
  • Brandon Bloodgood <bbloodgood@goetc.net>
  • Christophe Jolif <cjolif@ilog.fr>
  • Chuck Allen <chucka@hr-xml.org>
  • Chuck Ames <CAmes@seagullsoftware.com>
  • Cody Hageman <cody@goetc.net>
  • Dave Johnson <djohnson@ebusiness-apps.com>
  • David Frankel <david.frankel@sap.com>
  • David Kranz <kranz@curl.com>
  • David Temkin <temkin@laszlosystems.com>
  • Eric Nguyen <ericn@mercedsystems.com>
  • Fabio Rotondo <fabio.rotondo@os3.it>
  • Gabriele Buscone <gabriele.buscone@os3.it>
  • Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com>
  • Gustavo Munoz <gustavom@jackbe.com>
  • Hyther Nizam <hyther@adventnet.com>
  • Ian Wenig <ian@zoho.com>
  • James Douma <jdouma@ebusiness-apps.com>
  • James Margaris <jmargaris@nexaweb.com>
  • Javier Gallego <Javier.Gallego@softwareag.com>
  • Jay Ramasamy <Jay@adventnet.com>
  • Jennifer Taylor <jetaylor@adobe.com>
  • Jeremy Chone <jchone@adobe.com>
  • Jim Grandy <jgrandy@openlaszlo.org>
  • John Crupi <john.crupi@jackbe.com>
  • John Janetos <jjanetos@laszlosystems.com>
  • John Sheridan <john.sheridan.dublin@gmail.com>
  • Jorge Taylor <jotaylor@adobe.com>
  • Keith Deutsch <keith.deutsch@helmitechnologies.com>
  • Ken Fyten <ken.fyten@icesoft.com>
  • Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
  • Kjell Richard Bjørntvedt <krb@24SevenOffice.com>
  • Lindsey Simon <lsimon@finetooth.com>
  • Louenas Hamdi <louenas.hamdi@sap.com>
  • Luke Birdeau <lbirdeau@tibco.com>
  • Michael Peachey <mpeachey@tibco.com>
  • Raju Vegesna <raju@zoho.com>
  • Rama Gurram <rama.gurram@sap.com>
  • Ross Dargahi <ross.dargahi@zimbra.com>
  • Rüdiger Herrmann <rherrmann@innoopract.de>
  • Stephen Maryka <steve.maryka@icesoft.com>
  • Steven Pothoven <pothoven@us.ibm.com>
  • Ted Thibodeau <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
  • Vincent Hardy <vincent.hardy@sun.com>
  • Vivienne van der Vooren <vvandervooren@seagullsoftware.com>

Agenda

  • Agenda
    • SourceForge tasks from last week
      • Have Alex and Lindsey checked in their source code?
      • Has source code been separated into four JavaScript files?
      • Other news?
    • SourceForge mailing lists
      • We already have a hidden/private list for member IPR declarations (openajaxallianc-new-contributor@lists.sourceforge.net)
      • Proposal: add openajaxallianc-contributors@lists.sourceforge.net, subscribers must have completed IPR process
      • Proposal: add openajaxallianc-committers@lists.sourceforge.net
      • Proposal: non-contributors can contact us via the openajax public email list (currently openajax@yahoogroups.com)
    • SourceForge trackers
      • Proposal: Two trackers, one for Bugs and one for Features
        • Publicly available
        • Disallow non-logged-in postings
        • Display the resolution box
        • For new submissions, send emails to add openajaxallianc-contributors@lists.sourceforge.net
    • Test cases
      • Do submitted tests conform to a reasonable naming convention?
    • index.html - OK to have a single file for now (trunk/index.html)?
    • Interoperability Working Group draft charter
    • Security Working Group - OK to start working on draft charter? Who wants to help?
    • Task Forces
    • Other topics TBD


Minutes


OAA interop call, 10/18/06

Topic: SourceForge tasks from last week

  • Have Alex and Lindsey checked in their source code?
  • Has source code been separated into four JavaScript files?
  • Other news?
- old business
	- Jon: oaa.js checkin holding up development
	- Alex: oaa.js has now been checked in
	- original oaa.js would be split up into 5 separate JS files
	- concat/packed for distribution
	- looking for volunteers, but no one volunteered, so Jon will handle

Topic: SourceForge mailing lists

  • We already have a hidden/private list for member IPR declarations (openajaxallianc-new-contributor@lists.sourceforge.net)
  • Proposal: add openajaxallianc-contributors@lists.sourceforge.net, subscribers must have completed IPR process
  • Proposal: add openajaxallianc-committers@lists.sourceforge.net
  • Proposal: non-contributors can contact us via the openajax public email list (currently openajax@yahoogroups.com)
- need to set up mailing lists for SF project
	- a single, hidden list currently set up for iP tracking
	- proposal: creating 2 lists, one for contributors, one for committers
	- counter-proposal: one list for contributors+committers
	- only folks who have sent in an IPR declaration can be members of these lists
	- decided: Jon will set up a single additional mailing list for all contributors

Topic: SourceForge trackers

  • Proposal: Two trackers, one for Bugs and one for Features
    • Publicly available
    • Disallow non-logged-in postings
    • Display the resolution box
    • For new submissions, send emails to add openajaxallianc-contributors@lists.sourceforge.net
- bug tracking
	- no trackers currently set up
	- proposal: tracker for bugs, and one for features
	- resolution: if bug tracking system can distinguish between bugs as features, use a single bug tracker

Topic: Test cases

  • Do submitted tests conform to a reasonable naming convention?
- test cases
	- vic proposed changes to Jame's tests
	- may need to rename current test cases
	- will review offline

Topic: index.html - OK to have a single file for now (trunk/index.html)?

- index.html has been submitted
	- acts as table of contents for project
	- contributors an committers will decide on appropriateness later

Topic: Process issues

  • Security Working Group - OK to start working on draft charter? Who wants to help?
  • Task Forces
- process issues
	- 2 new documents
		- development process from Mike M
		- interop working group charter
	- generally, a formalization of working process
	- irc question: what if working groups don't get 5 responses to charter?
		- Jon: working group can't form, sufficient interest is required
- security working group
	- volunteers to form working group
		- greg murray from Sun
		- someone from IBM
		- Alex Russell
	- need proposal and charter document
		- David and Jon will start working on this next week
	- need to reach out to John Crupi to make him aware of working group formation
- task forces
	- IDE taskforce
		- greg murray, Sun
		- Kevin Hakman, TIBCO (coordinator/chair)
	- Server-side integration
		- Chris from Oracle (coordinator/chair)
		- work on JSF stuff will continue
	- Greg Wilkins' proposal
		- Coach proposes a task force for this
		- Coach will volunteer to chair
			- kickoff will happen soon, coordinated via wiki
		- cross-site messaging is one topic, Gideon suggests this might be a browser feature
	- Jon says each TF should 
		- create a wiki page
		- send announcement of tf to member-interop@openajaxalliance.org
			- mentioning the wiki page
			- inviting people to join TF
			- providing date/time for kick-off phone call
		- at kick-off meeting, talk about 
			- process issues such as email vs wiki vs phone calls
			- schedule for phone calls
			- who will be lead for which documents and other necessary assignments
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