Accessibility Minutes 2010 06 16
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Present
- Mike Squillace (IBM)
- Rich Schwerdtfeger (IBM)
- Ann Abbott (IBM)
- David Todd (IBM)
- Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois)
- Nathan Jukubiak (Parasoft)
Minutes
Congratulation to Prassana on the birth of her first!!!
Rich: will start responding to performance issues and role rule execution
Mike: charter has been drafted - will review main sections of interest plus review deliverables
Mike: deliverables + dates
Nathan: Link to Charter [1]
Mike: Mission/Scope: Background = condensed from main page
Jon: question re: Charter - techniques in WCAG 2 are not normative so will this group just accept what is in WCAG 2 or create own?
Jon: will be be developing our own techniques to meet success criteria?
Rich: don't have a choice given what is available
Jon: need to include that in charter
Jon: specifically landmarks and headers
Jon: another WCAG 2 issue is language changes demoted to Level AA instead of Level A
Jon: group will address best practices based on rules?
Mike: may not be committed deliverable, may be listed as a to-do
Jon: users will look only at what tool recommends and not refer to WCAG 2
Mike: this is a distinct issue. Will publish rules that satisfy success criteria and may not map directly
to a technique
Rich: rules format as one doc, rule set as another doc (dependent on techniques to do testing)
Rich: extend EOY another 6 months to generate techniques?
Mike: techniques not dependency for publishing rules
Rich: may be tweaked if found needed
Jon: not dependent
Rich: W3C is only interested in activities within W3C
Jon: sees same
Jon: doesn't think W3C techniques is being updated - is group meeting?
David: did ask IBM for ARIA techniques a couple months ago
Jon: W3C did work 7-8 yrs to get where they got
Mike: will update scope section to state this group will not be confined to existing techniques
Group agreed
Mike: Mission - input?
none
Mike: Scope - too limited or too broad?
Jon: HTML 5 doesn't list "+ARIA"
Rich: are working to have ARIA embedded
Jon: syntax will be such that the DTD will include ARIA?
Rich: Link to ARIA HTML 5 proposal [2]
Jon: will author or server have to do sniffing to determine whether browser is HTML4 or HTML5 enabled? ie "Required" property on input control and will browser have behaviour to provide error feedback?
Rich: believe they will have to - will be in header
Jon: just says "HTML"
Mike: that's a problem
Mike: under assumption that HTML 5 will include ARIA
Jon: add note to that point
Mike: ok
Rich: leave HTML5 out
Rich: still in flux
Jon: agrees for initial charter
Rich: write charter for however long it will take us for HTML 4 + ARIA
Rich: leave out 508 refresh
Nathan: agree - easier to add new
Jon: HTML 5 seems to be geared toward mobile
David: agrees
Group agrees scope = WCAG 2.0 with HTML 4 + WAI-ARIA
Mike: on to Schedule
Mike: Duration per recommendation from Jon Ferraiolo
Mike: Milestones - rules format needs to move from wiki to html doc
Rich: push out Reporting Best Practices
Rich: v1 + point releases for rule set
Jon: need plan for what will be covered in initial release
Jon: Modularize/prioritize what we do/commit to
Jon: start with low hanging fruit for rule sets and test suites
Mike: Sept2010 then quarterly?
Rich: recharter only thru Junel 2011 to keep pace with HTML 5 & 508 refresh
Group agrees
Mike: first quarterly release in Oct?
Rich: agrees
Mike releases in Oct, Jan & April
Mike: what about format?
Mike: end of Sept based on vacation times
Release Rules format 1.0 end of Sept 2010
Release Rules sets end of Oct 2010
Release Reporting Best Practices at end of Charter and make them non-normative
Release Rules sets point releases Jan & April 2011
Group agrees
call ended at 10am Central --AnnAbbott 17:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)