Accessibility Minutes 2015 01 30

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  • Ann Abbott (IBM)
  • Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois)
  • Marc Johlic (IBM) - Scribe
  • Nicholas Hoyt (University of Illinois)


Attending: Jon Gunderson Ann Abbott, Nick Hoyt, Marc Johlic

Agenda item 1. Update of FAE 2.0


Jon: updated the tools.

Jon: No basic ruleset to be created

Agenda item 2. Update on AInspector Sidebar for Firefox


Nick: both have two new rulesets (see agenda item 3)

Agenda item 3. Ruleset Naming and Description

Ruleset 1: HTML5 and ARIA Techniques

Ruleset 2: HTML4 Legacy Techniques

Jon: tools group meets once monthly

Jon: this group deciding whether Ruleset 2 is ok

Marc just joined

Jon: now have goal for future work

Marc, Ann and Nick are ok with new ruleset names

Agenda item 4. Current State of WCAG 2.0 Level A and AA Requirements

Jon: goal to have one rule related to each WCAG success criteria

Jon: Created this view at FAE that provides a roadmap of where we have rules and where we don't

Jon: For example 1.2.4 and 1.2.5 don't have rules

Jon: Reason we don't have rules for these is because they require captions and they do the same rules as 1.2.2 and 1.2.3

Jon: We have Related success criteria listed to point to these

Nick: Like Ann's suggestion - is there a way to indicate that we don't have gaps?

Jon: Good idea - will work on that

Jon: 2 rules would like feedback on

Jon: Title 2 rule - recommended rule in both rulesets

Jon: Was in FAE 1.1 (similar rule)

Agenda item 5: Discussion of Title Rule 2: TITLE content and H1 Content matching when more than 2 H1 elements

Jon: Problem is what if you have several H1's on a page

Jon: Titles would get really long

Jon: Maybe this rule should be removed ?

Ann: Do we have any other rules that could fill this?

Jon: Yes, Title 1 could cover it

Jon: Alternative to removing would be that if more than one H1 on a page, it becomes a Manual check

Jon: Rule summary would have to be corrected

Verizon is here to work on my phone line - i need to drop and dial back in on my other phone. BRB

Ann: Req for 1.3.1 Info and Rel is to use the proper semantic markup <Hx> vs just bolding and increasing fonts

Jon: Given that we have these other H1 rules, could we get rid of Title 2?

Group votes yes

Nick: Title 2 references WCAG 2.4.2 Page Titled

Jon: Will talk with other groups to see if they want to include it in Legacy

Jon: But will take it out of Strict (actually it's only in ARIA transitional)

Jon: We need a rule around Skip Links

Jon: How is IBM w/ skip links / skip to main

Ann / Marc: IBM focuses more on ARIA landmarks rather than skip to main links

Ann: No requirement for skip to main in our landmarks. Even if they put it off screen it only works for SR users

Jon: We can think more about this one and come back to it next week

Ann: Suggest checking w/ Rich on it as well

Call ended at 2:59 Central

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