Accessibility Minutes 2011 11 07

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Present

  • Ann Abbott (IBM)
  • David Todd (IBM)
  • Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois - Co-Chair)
  • Marc Johlic (IBM)
  • Nicholas Hoyt (University of Illinois) - Scribe
  • Philip Ackermann (Fraunhofer Institute for Applied Information Technology)
  • Prasanna Bale (University of Illinois)
  • Rich Schwerdtfeger (IBM - Co-Chair)

Minutes

JG: Review of rule sets: now have "Transitional" and "ARIA"

jongund: /member/wiki/WCAG_2.0_Principle_2_Operable_Rules#Requirement_2.4.2_Page_Titled

JG: In future, want people to use main landmark; but currently at UI we are using H1 in conjunction with TITLE

TITLE 1: VIOL in both Trans. and ARIA

TITLE 2: H1s and landmark main

Rich: What if you have portlet and in an iframe you have a document with an H1?

Nick: Is there a general principle re. content that you don't control?

JG: TITLE 1 is meant as a design guideline addressing how H1s should be used when you're also using landmark=main make that role=main

jongund: /member/wiki/WCAG_2.0_Principle_2_Operable_Rules#Requirement_2.4.1_Bypass_Blocks

JG: HEADING 1 in transitional ruleset says that each page must have at least one non-empty H1

JG: Changing HEADING 1 to Recommendation for Transitional Ruleset

JG: 2.4.2: TITLE 2 as Recommendation still makes sense?

Consensus seems to be in agreement

JG: TITLE 3 okay? It will become obsolete, only in Transitional

NH: For TITLE 3, what about looking at first H1 only?

JG: TITLE 4: JAWS truncates chars at 150?

Consensus for TITLE 4: okay for EN

JG: TITLE 5: Unique TITLE across web pages

JG: manual check

Consensus: okay

JG: Changing TITLE 4 to P2

David: Does WCAG talk about focusable elements?

JG: WCAG addresses interactive elements

JG: If there's only one interactive object, do you pass FOCUS ORDER 1?

JG: Changing FOCUS ORDER 1 to more than one link, form control and/or widget

JG: 2.4.4: aria-describedby

JG: LINK 1: accessible text of links with different HREFs should be unique

NH: Keep both as recommendations?

David: I agree

JG: LINK 2: should links with same HREF have same link text?

JG: Have a new result called Warning

JG: means it's something you should examine, but does not affect your a11y score

JG: LINK 2 could be a warning?

JG: so warning means that the markup doesn't make sense

Ann: Should be warning be called Advisory?

JG: What's the difference between Recommendation and Advisory?

JG: Could change Advisory to Informational

JG: E.g. broken links could be informational

JG: For LINK 1, what about uniqueness within the same landmark?

annabbott: http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelinesa>

JG: Next week will pick up with further discussion on 2.4.4

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